Star Wars: The Last Jedi Theories & Their Likeliness. Who is Snoke?

As with any fan theory: possible spoilers ahead…but we won’t know for sure until December 2017.

As we get closer to the release of “Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi“, more and more theories are coming out about Rey’s lineage, Benicio Del Toro’s character’s backstory, who Emperor Snoke could be and so on.

Just for fun, let’s take a look at some of these theories and estimate the likelihood of them coming true!

We previously looked at various theories regarding Rey’s parentage.

Today we will look at a couple theories regarding Supreme Leader Snoke’s identity.

What we know about Snoke is very little. We know that he is the leader of the First Order and that he is Force sensitive from his line “There has been an awakening. Have you felt it?” We can also assume that he can be very persuasive because he somehow seduced Ben Solo to turn to the Darkside of the Force.

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A. Former Storm Trooper

Was Snoke once Private Snoke in the Galactic Empire’s storm trooper ranks!?!

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Head’s up!

No.

This is obviously a joke, but it’s funny to me!

Geekydaddy Likelihood: 0%

B. Boba Fett

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Could Snoke really be everybody’s favorite Mandalorian?

In the “Legends” universe (no longer canon stories), Boba Fett did escape the Sarlacc pit that he fell into in Return of the Jedi. That means that it is possible that he is still alive in the new canon stories and the scars we see on Snoke could be consistent with wounds suffered fighting his way out of the pit.

This is more wishful thinking on the part of Fett fans than anything else. Even if Fett is still alive at the time of The Force Awakens, the idea of him being the supreme leader of the First Order (and suddenly being Force sensitive) is a bit of a leap.

GeekyDaddy Likelihood: 2% (a “2” just because Boba Fett is the $#!T)

C. Mace Windu

Everyone loves a good revenge story, right? (One of my favs is John Wick 2)

Could the new Star Wars Trilogy turn out to be one of the greatest revenge stories of all time?

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“Star Wars Mutha F–ker! Do you watch it!”

Could the seduction of Anakin’s grandson all be an effort on the part of Windu to seek revenge on the Skywalker clan? We know that Mace was not a fan of the Jedi Order taking on Anakin as a Padawan to begin with. Then to have that same kid later cut your hand off! That’s gotta sting!

When Samuel L. Jackson took on the role of Mace Windu, he reportedly told George Lucas he would take the role so long as his character “didn’t go out like a bitch”. Well….Mace kind of did.

While we did see Mace get zapped with Force lightning and launched out a window, we did not actually see a body to confirm his death. The wounds we see on Snoke could easily have happened in the battle with Palpatine and subsequent fall from his chambers. Snoke’s pale skin could be explained away with injuries (or maybe that the hologram distorted his pigment) but I have never seen an injury result in an English accent.

GeekyDaddy Likelihood: 10%

D. Darth Vader

Could Ben Solo have been corrupted to the Darkside by his own grandfather?

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The rationale for this theory is based almost solely on physical appearance, which is eerily similar. The scars on the left side of his forehead and left cheek are not identical, but very close (and how many people in the universe can there be that are that pale?)

Unfortunately, logic gets in the way of this theory. We saw Darth Vader/Anakin’s body get torched in the pyre on forest moon of Endor at the closing of Return of the Jedi.  We also saw Anakin’s Force ghost manifest (in the form of Hayden Christensen’s stiff acting body) at the Ewok’s celebration. So even if Palpatine or Plagueis had possessed his body (keep reading the article, I will get to that…), Darth Vader’s body was destroyed.

GeekyDaddy Likelihood: 15%

E. Palpatine

In the old canon universe, the Dark Empire comic book series revealed to us that Palpatine had learned to cheat death by being able to transfer his Force presence into other beings. Is it possible he somehow transferred his presence into Vader or even Luke prior to being vaporized in the Death Star’s core?

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While Snoke’s musical score does have some similarities to Palpatine’s and I would not put it past Lucasfilm to rehash the same villain again (seriously, how many times are we going to have to see rebel X-wings take down a Death Star with a giant planet killing laser?), I just don’t see this happening.

GeekyDaddy likelihood: 15%

F. The Grand Inquisitor

The last time we saw the Grand Inquisitor he was falling into an exploding reactor shaft, which seems to be a re-occurring occurrence with Sith users.

The physical similarities are there, both in build and skin pigment. I have never taken a plunge into a reactor, but I imagine that the scars we see on Snoke would be consistent with that kind of damage. Although I am not sure what chemical in the reactor would erase facial tattoos.

This theory is also supported by Disney’s love of cross promoting by bringing in characters from the Rebels television show (cough…Benicio Del Toro…cough).

Bringing television characters into the movies in supporting roles makes a ton of sense and worked well with the Saw Gerrera character in Rogue One. However Snoke is the main villain in this new trilogy! Are fans familiar enough with the Grand Inquisitor to make this a dramatic enough reveal?

GeekyDaddy Likelihood: 30%

G. Plagueis

This theory makes the most sense to me!

We learned from Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith that his master Darth Plagueis had found a way to cheat death…prior to getting murdered in his sleep by Palpatine.

But was he murdered by Palpatine or did Palpatine only kill his physical form?

Check out the smirk on his face as he talks to Anakin:

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“I know something you don’t know…I know something you don’t know…”

Now I want to make sure I throw credit towards my friend Lewis Barnes because this theory is something he and I discussed together.

Remember earlier we discussed how in the (now non-canon) Dark Empire comic book series, Palpatine had mastered the art of Force transference to move his essence from one body to another. This technique would not be all that dissimilar to the Force ghost technique that Qui-gon Jinn mastered and later passed on to Yoda and so on.

What if this Force transference is not only the way Plagueis found to cheat death, but also used this to possess Palpatine’s body just before his death?

If this is the case, he could have easily transferred his essence out of Palpatine’s body before it ignited in the reactor of the second Death Star in Return of the Jedi. Perhaps temporarily into Vader or even Luke’s body. For all we know, he could have been hoping from Force sensitive body to Force sensitive body for centuries.

Many people that argue against this theory of “Darth Plagueis as Snoke” point towards the physical description of him in James Lucerno’s novel, “Darth Plagueis”, or Pablo Hidalgo’s denials about Snoke’s character.

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However this novel is no longer considered canon, making the physical description irrelevant, and disinformation is common in today’s movie industry. Remember J.J. Abrams denied Benedict Cumberbatch was Kahn in Star Trek: Into Darkness right up until its release.

I love this idea because it draws all three trilogies together with one common villain and keeps the prequels (somewhat) relevant.

Geeky Daddy Likelihood: 75%

There is always the chance that Snoke is an entirely new character that we have never seen before as well, but where is the fun in that?

What do you think?

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Star Wars: The Last Jedi Theories & How Likely They Are. What Is Rey’s Lineage?

As with any fan theory: possible spoilers ahead…but we won’t know for sure until December 2017.

As we get closer to the release of “Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi“, more and more theories are coming out about Rey’s lineage, Benicio Del Toro’s character’s backstory, who Emperor Snoke could be and so on.

Just for fun, let’s take a look at some of these theories and estimate the likelihood of them coming true!

Today we will look at a couple theories regarding Rey’s parentage.

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That’s an intense look…

We have plenty fan theories to choose from about this topic. Some are as old as the first release date of “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” and some are as recent as the release of Benicio Del Toro’s photo.

Let’s break a few of these down:

A. Rey is a Skywalker?

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I perpetually wore that same facial expression for a whole semester in college when I took calculus. I still have no idea what a “cosign” is and that was 20 years ago.

This makes a ton of sense on multiple levels. The foremost being that the first two Star Wars trilogies have been centered around a Skywalker’s path from upbringing on a desert world, to discovering the Force, to trying to bring order (or peace depending on your point of view) to the galaxy. Both trilogies were incredible financial successes and, as my grandfather used to say, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

This would also coincide with Disney executives previously referring to anthology or “A Star Wars Story” movies as being non Skywalker stories.

Clues to believe Rey is a Skywalker:

  • Luke’s lightsaber did call out to Rey
  • Rey is naturally an excellent pilot (which, in fairness, could also point toward a “Solo” lineage)
  • Incredibly powerful in the Force without structured training
  • Kylo Ren knew who she was right away
  • Maz Kanata’s prophecy that “the belonging you seek is ahead” before she visits Luke

Reasons to doubt Rey is a Skywalker:

  • Where is the plot twist in this? We are led straight forward to believe she is a Skywalker so easily, there must be a better plot twist or reveal than this.
  • If she does turn out to be a Skywalker, doesn’t that make Luke out to be the absolute worst dead beat dad in the history of the galaxy? He would have had to have left his own daughter on a poor desert planet for years while he went off to live on a Hawaiian island. No birthday cards. No child support payments. Simply cut all ties to his only (that we know of) daughter. Wouldn’t that completely tarnish the reputation of the great hero we grew up with?
  • Or is this what Mark Hamill was referring to when he recently said that he “fundamentally disagreed” with “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” director Rian Johnson’s vision of his character?

GeekyDaddy Likelihood: 70%

B. Rey is a Solo & Kylo Ren’s Twin?

There were lots of subtle hints in The Force Awakens to lead us to a connection between Rey and Ben Solo.

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Sibling squabble?

Why did Kylo flip out into a toddler-esque temper tantrum when he heard the mention of “a girl”? It was obviously a revelation he had been anticipating and dreading for some time.

The Force awakened within her (see what I did there?) after Kylo started probing her mind. Did he perhaps unwittingly unlock her Force potential? Maybe even broke through some type of mental Force barrier Luke put in her mind years ago?

What is the story behind the look Han throws her way after she says “I didn’t know there was this much green in the whole galaxy.”

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The look could be a couple different things. It could simply be pity for a poor, naive young girl forced to grow up in a hard desert life. Could it be more?

Could the look be regret? Is Han feeling remorse for leaving his daughter on Jakku with Unkar Plutt? I always thought it was a little too convenient that the Millennium Falcon was that close to Rey and in the possession of the same person Rey was left with. Did Han leave the Falcon for Plutt as payment for agreeing to watch over his daughter?

With all the other similarities “The Force Awakens” draws from “A New Hope“, hiding Rey on Jakku would parallel hiding Luke on Tatooine.

What mostly discredits this theory for me (aside from not wanting to believe Han Solo would abandon his daughter) is the hug shared by Rey and Leia at the end of the movie.

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So many fans think that this hug represents a mother reuniting with a long lost daughter.  I don’t think so.

Momma Leia would be shedding tears if this was the case. I think that Leia looked at Rey and knew that she just saw Han die and they shared a mutually consoling hug.

GeekyDaddy Likelihood: 40%

C. Is Rey the daughter of another Skywalker?

I believe this theory has been born out of a flat out editorial mistake. And as my wife will tell you, if there is one thing I know, it is typing mistakes!.

The opening crawl of “The Force Awakens features a mention of Leia and “her brother Luke,” which should actually be written as “her brother, Luke.” Was this a editing mistake or did Leia possibly have more than one brother?

Anakin was never known for strictly following the Jedi code for celibacy (or not slaughtering children for that matter). Is it possible that he got himself a little “strange” on one lonely night during the Clone Wars? Do Luke & Leia have another brother running around the galaxy (possibly looking like Benicio Del Toro)?

GeekyDaddy Likelihood: 10%

D. Is Rey a Kenobi?

There were quite a few clues throughout The Force Awakens to point towards a Kenobi lineage.

J.J. Abrams had actress Daisy Ridley keep her British accent and yet had John Boyega work hard to lose his? Why have her keep the same accent as Kenobi (portrayed by both Ewan McGregor and Alec Guinness) if not to draw parallels between the two?

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Who wore it better?

Rey’s outfit, both in fabrics and colors, is very similar to the Jedi robes worn by Kenobi throughout his appearances.

Most importantly is the scene in “The Force Awakens” where the lightsaber first calls out to Rey, resulting in her lightsaber-induced vision. In the sound effects for that scene, you can hear both Ewan McGregor and Alec Guinness’s voices speaking to her.

For the late Guinness, Skywalker Sound engineers actually took an old clip of Guinness saying the word “afraid” and shortened it down to sound like “Rey”. That is a lot of time, effort and money to invest in a brief voice over effect if it is not a foreshadow of greater things.

GeekyDaddy Likelihood: 35%

E. Is Rey a Palpatine?

This theory I am not a big fan of, mostly because the idea of Emperor Palpatine having sex makes me think of an elderly dude prowling the hallways of an assisted living facility for hook-ups. Nasty. But this is a popular theory so let’s give it some thought.

Did Luke sense the dark side in Rey at an early age? Could that be why she was left on a distant planet and kept away from training in the Force?

There have been parallels made between her lightsaber fighting technique and Palpatine’s, but that seems like a bit of a stretch for me.

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Plus she lacks the Billy Idol upper lip curl that Palpatine pulls off.

I did notice some similarities between her music and Palpatine’s. That was obviously intentional on the part of the producers, but why?

Could this be our first glimpse into what Luke is referring to in the “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” teaser trailer when he says “It is time for the Jedi to end”? Are we going towards a universe where Force users are no longer divided by “Light side” Jedi and “Dark side” Sith and are all simply “Gray” Force users?

GeekyDaddy Likelihood: 10%

F. Rey is the daughter of Ezra Bridger?

This makes sense multiple ways, one being cross promotion of other Star Wars products (something of which Disney excels).

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Ezra Bridger is the main character in the successful cartoon on Disney XD: Star Wars Rebels and Disney would like to make sure that all the new ‘canon’ Star Wars franchises tie in together to make one cohesive universe. We have already seen Disney tie Rebels together with the previous Star Wars cartoon The Clone Wars with the continuation of the clone trooper Rex’s character.

In the Rebels series, we have seen how strongly the Force was awakened in the orphan Ezra Bridger, similar to Rey. We have also seen Ezra being trained by the Jedi Kanan as well as being tempted by the ways of the Sith by Darth Maul and the Sith Holocron.

Could Ezra have been the first of the “Gray” side Jedi?

Many believe Ezra Bridger is the secret role “DJ” that Benicio Del Toro will be playing in the Last Jedi. Could this be Rey’s father?

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There are physical similarities between Ezra & Del Toro

What better way to tie Rebels into the cinematic Star Wars world than by having its main character Ezra transition into flesh and blood on the screen?

Star Wars Rebels will be airing its final season this Fall and will be wrapping up around the release of “Star Wars: The Last Jedi“. Could this final season reveal Ezra taking on a mantle of “DJ”? And what does “DJ” stand for? Dark Jedi? Dreaded Jokes? Maybe he drives a “doubtful jalopnik”?

GeekyDaddy Likelihood: 15% (but 60% chance that DJ is Ezra)

G. Rey is both a Skywalker & a Kenobi?

Full disclosure: I love this theory!

(I first heard this theory from Chris Michael Stolle of Realm of the Mist so I want to make sure I give him his due credit.)

Is it possible that Rey is both the daughter of Luke and the granddaughter of Ben Kenobi?

This would explain all the similarities we already discussed between Rey and Kenobi while keeping this new trilogy centered around a Skywalker.

We know that Obi-Wan had a lot of free time on his hands after the events of “Episode III: Revenge of the Sith” and I imagine the deserts of Tatooine get mighty lonely . Is it possible that he found himself a girlfriend to snuggle up with on the cold desert evenings?

And what would his Tinder handle be? SaberMaster?

We do know that Kenobi and Mandolorian duchess Satine Kryze shared a special connection during the Clone Wars. Is it possible that she gave birth to a daughter by Kenobi prior to her death? If so, she would have been of Luke’s similar age and the galaxy is a very small place (with apparently very few females).

A step further with this theory is that this daughter is actually Captain Phasma, making her Rey’s mother. (Update: This is no longer a possibility with the release of the canon novel Phasma)

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Is Phasma one bad mutha?

While I am not quite ready to make that leap of faith yet, I do find it peculiar how easily she capitulated to Finn and Solo’s demands for her to drop Starkiller’s shields. Double agent maybe?

Her chrome armor is crafted from the melted frame of a Naboo Yacht once owned by Emperor Palpatine. Could this be a nod to the Naboo heritage on her paternal grandmother’s side? Or does this lean towards her being a Palpatine, who is also from the planet Naboo?

Likelihood: 70% (that Rey is a Skywalker & Kenobi), 10% (Phasma is Rey’s mom)

H. Rey is a Skywalker and a Palpatine?

Another theory that I am not a huge fan of but some international promotional material for “The Last Jedi” are teasing about the greatest reveal in Star Wars history.  This would be it!

Is it possible that, while training Rey, Luke discovered the true parentage of her mother somehow tied to Palpatine and Luke just could not bear it? Maybe he saw a darkness in her that he knew could not be controlled.

This would help explain away how he could jettison his own child to live as far away from him as possible.

This could also lead us back to the path of “Gray” Force users with a blurring of the “light side” Jedi and “dark side” Sith.

This also plays into why Kylo tried so hard to recruit Rey initially and not fight her.

GeekyDaddy Likelihood: 10%

What are you thoughts on Rey’s parentage?

In our next update on Star Wars: The Last Jedi theories, we will look deeper into Snoke‘s character and his possible other identities.

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Was Captain Rex From Star Wars Rebels In Return Of The Jedi 24 Years Ago?

It seems that Star Wars head man Dave Filoni is a fan of fan theories, which is fun to see.

Ever since Captain Rex appeared in Star Wars Rebels with his bushy Santa Claus-ish beard, fan theories have been circulating that he was one of the rebels that helped blow the shield generator on the moon of Endor in Star Wars: Return of the Jedi. (Rex was clean shaven in the Star Wars Clone Wars series)

Per io9, at the Animated Origins at Celebration Orlando, Filoni dropped a bit of a teaser for the upcoming Rebels panel later this weekend.  In the presentation, an image of Rex ditching is old Clone Trooper armor for more of a camouflage outfit similar to that worn by the rebels on the moon of Endor.

Star Wars Rebels Could Soon Confirm One Beloved Fan Theory About Captain Rex

“What’s that? That’s some kind of… don’t pay any attention to that. That shouldn’t even be in this folder!” joked Filoni after the image displayed.  “Just speculate away, we’re putting it out there.” added added Lucasfilm story group executive Pablo Hidalgo.

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